i thought that paul ryan kind of passed the vice presidential test. i don't think anybody -- this will be people who vote for mitt romney and people who vote against him, but i don't think you'll find people who will vote against the republican ticket because paul ryan is on it. the last time out there is no question that there were some people and i don't know how many, but there were some who did not vote for john mccain because he had put sarah palin on the ticket. i think paul ryan showed last night that he was a person of substance and a serious person and there's argument about this, about who won. i think he did pass that test. i think the other part of it is these debates are really helping us to see the contrast between these two parties and the positions that they're taking. there's a contrast and i think so far they've been very good. >> let's talk about who is coming on the show because while you can't talk a ton about the debates, you sure will have a lot of people who will. >> you know, we're going to be talking about something that was